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Switching is entirely possible, as shown by other people... who can switch. It also certainly doesn't contradict how the brain works at all, so it is fairly credible.
9:30 PM
That said, dissociating as escapism is not a healthy thing to do.
9:30 PM
Possible - yes. Healthy - no.
9:31 PM
Hm. Let me put it in this manner.
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so what would you recommend as some form of escapism then?
9:32 PM
I'm not running away forever
9:32 PM
I just need some place to be alone for a few hours at the least
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 9:32 PM
you can do wonderland stuff with her, if you want.
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Let's say you are in a combat situation with a partner, and you were trying to deal with an enemy sniper keeping you pinned down - your partner is less well-equipped to deal with the situation, as they have less training and experience. Switching to escape life problems is like telling your partner to deal with the sniper, while you sit behind cover and... don't do anything.
9:33 PM
Clearly - that isn't an effective way to solve the problem. Neither is switching as a way to escape life problems.
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yeah that's douchey as fuck - and a good way to make sure they never have your back again
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Obviously the situation isn't as deadly, but hopefully the analogy is clear.
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but like I said, it's mainly just a few good friends disappearing...
9:34 PM
it's not like my life is a mess
9:34 PM
I just need a place to clear my head (edited)
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You can certainly do as bduddy suggested, and enjoy time daydreaming with her.
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ok maybe that's a good idea
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There are ways to 'escape' that aren't also putting a tulpa in place to deal with things instead. There are also other ways to cope that don't involve... running away.
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well till now I'd been using the brute force method which is bitch to other people
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If there isn't any way to effectively deal with the situation or cope with it, then running away may be the only option... but that doesn't make it a healthy solution by any means.
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but I may have forced another friend away as a result
9:35 PM
so I think I have to just stop and pick my shit up
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Confiding in other trusted individuals is one thing - mainly at that point you need to watch them and make sure that they aren't as fully uncomfortable in dealing with it, and that you aren't falling into a pattern such as the "Why don't you, yes but" game as described in Transactional Analysis.
9:37 PM
(In other words - repeated interaction of stating a problem and requesting solutions, but simply shooting down all possible solutions outright)
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pls don't introduce mathematical concepts I have no hope of understanding
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I see. I do hope that you feel better soon.
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hah...hahahahaha....that's exactly what I've been doing @SkyeNet
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Ah - it isn't a mathematical concept. Just a way of visualizing interaction.
9:38 PM
Hah.
9:39 PM
Perhaps you should analyze why you are shooting down proposed solutions and take a step back.
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When people are trying to help, simply saying "no don't talk to me about that I don't want to hear it" (for example) is a fairly negative response that makes them... not want to help nearly as much.
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Emotional responses are normal from a developing tulpa right? Because I've had some pretty wild emotions lately, mostly super happy, but also some sad. Is this normal? I've never really felt like this before (edited)
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 11:02 PM
they can be, yeah.
11:03 PM
any "reason" you can pick out?
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Not really. I just started developing her about a week ago, and so far, I've talked to her every day. I've experienced what I can only assume are head pressures, and some crazy emotions that started like two days ago.
11:08 PM
And I'm pretty sure that I'm not going insane so I assumed they might be related
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 11:08 PM
it sounds good to me. Try to identify "where" those emotions are coming from, and communicate "that way". Does that make any sense?
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Like, if she's being happy towards me than I should be happy back as a sort of early communication?
11:11 PM
And determine the emotional triggers? (edited)
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just love her back, in general. As for communication, narration seems to be working, yes? so do continue that
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 11:26 PM
yeah, no need to stop talking, but sending emotions back works too.
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Guess I'm on the right track then, thanks for all the help (edited)
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 3:48 AM
What if I need some time to myself? What do I say?
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Tell her and then she'll prob be like oh okay sure
3:49 AM
and then you can ignore her for a bit
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 3:49 AM
Gotcha
3:49 AM
Thanks
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bduddy #Diana# 5/19/2018 3:50 AM
everyone needs time to themselves. She'll understand for sure.
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No prob dude
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 4:18 PM
What if I can't talk to her?
4:18 PM
Maybe I'm listening to music or something
4:19 PM
Can I visualize her and let my imagination roam free?
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If you want to do it, you can do it
4:21 PM
and if you do just about anything in terms of interacting, it's a good thing
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:31 PM
So even if I can't talk to her I can just have fun with her?
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I would say stop fretting so much
8:32 PM
If you think about her, she'll pick up on it all
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You don't have to talk to her out loud.
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:33 PM
Awkward
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talk to her in your mind
8:33 PM
use your mindvoice
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:33 PM
My mind voice?
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To be clear - "your mindvoice" is essentially just imagining what you want to say and...
8:33 PM
'directing' it towards her.
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you know when you silently read stuff, you sound like a certain thing
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That isn't a very specific term, admittedly.
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that's your mindvoice
8:34 PM
she should ideally have a seperate voice with a different sound
8:34 PM
but just focus on her
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...do people not think with their mindvoice outside of reading?
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it doesn't even have to be that particular (edited)
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of course they do
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Most people don't really think of it as such.
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I think with my mindvoice all the time, it's just reading is an easy way to explain it
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...most people do think to themselves, but they don't name it 'mindvoice'.
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:36 PM
Yeah
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What if I don't know what to say?
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What if I can't think of anything to talk about?
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bduddy #Diana# 5/19/2018 8:39 PM
what if you're talking to a friend and you don't know what to say?
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:39 PM
Sorry
8:39 PM
What if I don't know what to say to Nathalie
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bduddy #Diana# 5/19/2018 8:40 PM
no, I'm asking a rhetorical question
8:40 PM
it's the same thing
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I had this problem
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so when I don't have anything to say
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I imagine her sitting on whatever is near me
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a desk, a bed, whatever
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and just absorbing the same info as me
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my music, my quora feed, whatever
8:41 PM
and occasionally ask her about it, or tell her what you think about it
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That was how Tacio forced me
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@Deleted User You could talk about what you're doing right now. Perhaps what you like about the music, if you are listening to music at the time.
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:41 PM
Oh so I'm not just sitting there like an idiot imagining her around me reacting to stuff I'm reacting to?
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Like I said, if you are thinking about her, sooner or later she'll have something to say
8:42 PM
this is the essence of passive forcing (edited)
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You don't need to make her do anything.
8:43 PM
That, is what is considered puppeting, or parroting - and it can have the rather unfortunate side effect of making it difficult to tell if you are actually speaking to her or not.
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Deleted User 5/19/2018 8:44 PM
I'm just stressing that I'm not giving her enough attention
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Don't.
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I know it's easier said than done.
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